Discussion:
Request for a technical review
Mallory Mooney
2018-10-10 16:44:39 UTC
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Hi all,

I work for Datadog and am writing a guide about monitoring Tomcat (with or
without Datadog). I'd love to get some feedback on the technical content.
The project maintainers we reached out to recommended we post a request
here.

Would anyone be up for that? I can send the post link to someone directly.

Appreciate your help and time!
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Mallory Mooney
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Deepak Behera
2018-10-10 17:03:07 UTC
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Hi Mallory,

I can have a look. Please let me know further details.


Thanks,
Deepak Behera
Mark Thomas
2018-10-10 22:00:46 UTC
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Post by Mallory Mooney
Hi all,
I work for Datadog and am writing a guide about monitoring Tomcat (with or
without Datadog). I'd love to get some feedback on the technical content.
The project maintainers we reached out to recommended we post a request
here.
Would anyone be up for that? I can send the post link to someone directly.
Appreciate your help and time!
Why not post the link here so the community can review the document?

Mark


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Christopher Schultz
2018-10-11 14:53:14 UTC
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Mark,
Post by Mark Thomas
Post by Mallory Mooney
Hi all,
I work for Datadog and am writing a guide about monitoring Tomcat
(with or without Datadog). I'd love to get some feedback on the
technical content. The project maintainers we reached out to
recommended we post a request here.
Would anyone be up for that? I can send the post link to someone directly.
Appreciate your help and time!
Why not post the link here so the community can review the
document?
+1

There are many active community members who have an interest in
monitoring. I'm sure you'll get lots of feedback.

- -chris
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Mallory Mooney
2018-10-12 17:23:23 UTC
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I definitely appreciate everyone's willingness to help out!

Here is the link to the GDoc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fudlXj055nnPd-1lUoAXIS2ge8qNI56_jgUhHgKczFE/edit?usp=sharing

Requesting access will still be needed, but I can grant that ASAP. I want
to make sure I can attribute comments/suggestions to specific people, so I
know who to thank, and who to follow up with if I need more clarification
on a specific comment. Plus, it makes the IT department happy.


On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:53 AM Christopher Schultz <
Post by Christopher Schultz
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Mark,
Post by Mark Thomas
Post by Mallory Mooney
Hi all,
I work for Datadog and am writing a guide about monitoring Tomcat
(with or without Datadog). I'd love to get some feedback on the
technical content. The project maintainers we reached out to
recommended we post a request here.
Would anyone be up for that? I can send the post link to someone directly.
Appreciate your help and time!
Why not post the link here so the community can review the
document?
+1
There are many active community members who have an interest in
monitoring. I'm sure you'll get lots of feedback.
- -chris
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Christopher Schultz
2018-10-12 18:23:33 UTC
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Mallory,
Post by Mallory Mooney
I definitely appreciate everyone's willingness to help out!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fudlXj055nnPd-1lUoAXIS2ge8qNI56_jg
UhHgKczFE/edit?usp=sharing
Post by Mallory Mooney
Requesting access will still be needed, but I can grant that ASAP.
I want to make sure I can attribute comments/suggestions to
specific people, so I know who to thank, and who to follow up with
if I need more clarification on a specific comment. Plus, it makes
the IT department happy.
What, no GitHub PRs? ;)

- -chris
Post by Mallory Mooney
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:53 AM Christopher Schultz <
Mark,
Post by Mark Thomas
Post by Mark Thomas
Post by Mallory Mooney
Hi all,
I work for Datadog and am writing a guide about monitoring
Tomcat (with or without Datadog). I'd love to get some
feedback on the technical content. The project maintainers
we reached out to recommended we post a request here.
Would anyone be up for that? I can send the post link to
someone directly.
Appreciate your help and time!
Why not post the link here so the community can review the
document?
+1
There are many active community members who have an interest in
monitoring. I'm sure you'll get lots of feedback.
-chris
Post by Mark Thomas
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Igal Sapir
2018-10-12 18:36:25 UTC
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Post by Christopher Schultz
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Mallory,
Post by Mallory Mooney
I definitely appreciate everyone's willingness to help out!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fudlXj055nnPd-1lUoAXIS2ge8qNI56_jgUhHgKczFE/edit?usp=sharing
Requesting access will still be needed, but I can grant that ASAP.
I want to make sure I can attribute comments/suggestions to
specific people, so I know who to thank, and who to follow up with
if I need more clarification on a specific comment. Plus, it makes
the IT department happy.
What, no GitHub PRs? ;)
+1

Is that going to be publicly available or is it a
proprietary/private/commercial guide?


Igal
Post by Christopher Schultz
- -chris
Post by Mallory Mooney
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:53 AM Christopher Schultz <
Mark,
Post by Mark Thomas
Post by Mark Thomas
Post by Mallory Mooney
Hi all,
I work for Datadog and am writing a guide about monitoring
Tomcat (with or without Datadog). I'd love to get some
feedback on the technical content. The project maintainers
we reached out to recommended we post a request here.
Would anyone be up for that? I can send the post link to
someone directly.
Appreciate your help and time!
Why not post the link here so the community can review the
document?
+1
There are many active community members who have an interest in
monitoring. I'm sure you'll get lots of feedback.
-chris
Post by Mark Thomas
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Mallory Mooney
2018-10-12 20:37:13 UTC
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Igal, it will be available publicly once published! I don't have an
official publish date yet but can share that when it becomes more concrete.

And no PRs yet, Chris! It's still in the less cool GDoc stage of the review
process. :)
Post by Mallory Mooney
Post by Christopher Schultz
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Mallory,
Post by Mallory Mooney
I definitely appreciate everyone's willingness to help out!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fudlXj055nnPd-1lUoAXIS2ge8qNI56_jgUhHgKczFE/edit?usp=sharing
Post by Christopher Schultz
Post by Mallory Mooney
Requesting access will still be needed, but I can grant that ASAP.
I want to make sure I can attribute comments/suggestions to
specific people, so I know who to thank, and who to follow up with
if I need more clarification on a specific comment. Plus, it makes
the IT department happy.
What, no GitHub PRs? ;)
+1
Is that going to be publicly available or is it a
proprietary/private/commercial guide?
Igal
Post by Christopher Schultz
- -chris
Post by Mallory Mooney
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:53 AM Christopher Schultz <
Mark,
Post by Mark Thomas
Post by Mark Thomas
Post by Mallory Mooney
Hi all,
I work for Datadog and am writing a guide about monitoring
Tomcat (with or without Datadog). I'd love to get some
feedback on the technical content. The project maintainers
we reached out to recommended we post a request here.
Would anyone be up for that? I can send the post link to someone directly.
Appreciate your help and time!
Why not post the link here so the community can review the document?
+1
There are many active community members who have an interest in
monitoring. I'm sure you'll get lots of feedback.
-chris
Post by Mark Thomas
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Mallory Mooney
2018-10-19 12:52:04 UTC
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Hi all!

Just wanted to give you an update. I am working to get things for this
series wrapped up by the first week of November. Hopefully, that still
gives everyone enough time to review and leave any feedback.

Mallory
Post by Mallory Mooney
Igal, it will be available publicly once published! I don't have an
official publish date yet but can share that when it becomes more concrete.
And no PRs yet, Chris! It's still in the less cool GDoc stage of the
review process. :)
Post by Mallory Mooney
Post by Christopher Schultz
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Mallory,
Post by Mallory Mooney
I definitely appreciate everyone's willingness to help out!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fudlXj055nnPd-1lUoAXIS2ge8qNI56_jgUhHgKczFE/edit?usp=sharing
Post by Christopher Schultz
Post by Mallory Mooney
Requesting access will still be needed, but I can grant that ASAP.
I want to make sure I can attribute comments/suggestions to
specific people, so I know who to thank, and who to follow up with
if I need more clarification on a specific comment. Plus, it makes
the IT department happy.
What, no GitHub PRs? ;)
+1
Is that going to be publicly available or is it a
proprietary/private/commercial guide?
Igal
Post by Christopher Schultz
- -chris
Post by Mallory Mooney
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:53 AM Christopher Schultz <
Mark,
Post by Mark Thomas
Post by Mark Thomas
Post by Mallory Mooney
Hi all,
I work for Datadog and am writing a guide about monitoring
Tomcat (with or without Datadog). I'd love to get some
feedback on the technical content. The project maintainers
we reached out to recommended we post a request here.
Would anyone be up for that? I can send the post link to someone directly.
Appreciate your help and time!
Why not post the link here so the community can review the document?
+1
There are many active community members who have an interest in
monitoring. I'm sure you'll get lots of feedback.
-chris
Post by Mark Thomas
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Mallory Mooney
2018-11-02 16:34:20 UTC
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Hi everyone!

Just wanted to check-in to see if anyone has had the chance to take a look
at the draft and leave feedback. I'll be locking things down for this one
by Thursday of next week (Nov. 8), so there's some time left if you are
still working through it.

Have a great weekend!
Post by Mallory Mooney
Hi all!
Just wanted to give you an update. I am working to get things for this
series wrapped up by the first week of November. Hopefully, that still
gives everyone enough time to review and leave any feedback.
Mallory
On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 3:37 PM Mallory Mooney <
Post by Mallory Mooney
Igal, it will be available publicly once published! I don't have an
official publish date yet but can share that when it becomes more concrete.
And no PRs yet, Chris! It's still in the less cool GDoc stage of the
review process. :)
Post by Mallory Mooney
Post by Christopher Schultz
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Mallory,
Post by Mallory Mooney
I definitely appreciate everyone's willingness to help out!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fudlXj055nnPd-1lUoAXIS2ge8qNI56_jgUhHgKczFE/edit?usp=sharing
Post by Christopher Schultz
Post by Mallory Mooney
Requesting access will still be needed, but I can grant that ASAP.
I want to make sure I can attribute comments/suggestions to
specific people, so I know who to thank, and who to follow up with
if I need more clarification on a specific comment. Plus, it makes
the IT department happy.
What, no GitHub PRs? ;)
+1
Is that going to be publicly available or is it a
proprietary/private/commercial guide?
Igal
Post by Christopher Schultz
- -chris
Post by Mallory Mooney
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:53 AM Christopher Schultz <
Mark,
Post by Mark Thomas
Post by Mark Thomas
Post by Mallory Mooney
Hi all,
I work for Datadog and am writing a guide about monitoring
Tomcat (with or without Datadog). I'd love to get some
feedback on the technical content. The project maintainers
we reached out to recommended we post a request here.
Would anyone be up for that? I can send the post link to
someone directly.
Appreciate your help and time!
Why not post the link here so the community can review the document?
+1
There are many active community members who have an interest in
monitoring. I'm sure you'll get lots of feedback.
-chris
Post by Mark Thomas
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Mallory,
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Hi everyone!
Just wanted to check-in to see if anyone has had the chance to take
a look at the draft and leave feedback. I'll be locking things down
for this one by Thursday of next week (Nov. 8), so there's some
time left if you are still working through it.
In your section on connector/protocol types, you say that Tomcat
auto-switches between APR and NIO, and that the default is APR. That
is not true in Tomcat 8.5 and later, where NIO is the default unless
the APR Lifecycle Listener's "useAprConnector" attribute has been set
to true (the default value for that is false).

Your description about garbage collection seems to indicate that
Tomcat is somehow involved in GC algorithm selection. It's not: that's
entirely up to the JVM, of course.

Also, OOME's don't cause crashes. They cause confusion, since some
application's aren't resilient, and the JVM itself rarely goes down,
so some devs and admins think everything is okay. Generally, it's not
okay, but it might look okay. There are also OOMEs which are
completely benign and can be ignored. Knowing which is which comes
with experience.

- -chris
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On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:52 AM Mallory Mooney
Post by Mallory Mooney
Hi all!
Just wanted to give you an update. I am working to get things for
this series wrapped up by the first week of November. Hopefully,
that still gives everyone enough time to review and leave any
feedback.
Mallory
On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 3:37 PM Mallory Mooney <
Post by Mallory Mooney
Igal, it will be available publicly once published! I don't
have an official publish date yet but can share that when it
becomes more concrete.
And no PRs yet, Chris! It's still in the less cool GDoc stage
of the review process. :)
Mallory,
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I definitely appreciate everyone's willingness to help
out!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fudlXj055nnPd-1lUoAXIS2ge8qNI5
6_jgUhHgKczFE/edit?usp=sharing
Requesting access will still be needed, but I can grant that ASAP.
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I want to make sure I can attribute
comments/suggestions to specific people, so I know who
to thank, and who to follow up with if I need more
clarification on a specific comment. Plus, it makes the
IT department happy.
What, no GitHub PRs? ;)
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+1
Is that going to be publicly available or is it a
proprietary/private/commercial guide?
Igal
-chris
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Mark,
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Hi all,
I work for Datadog and am writing a guide about
monitoring Tomcat (with or without Datadog).
I'd love to get some feedback on the technical
content. The project maintainers we reached out
to recommended we post a request here.
Would anyone be up for that? I can send the
post link to someone directly.
Appreciate your help and time!
Why not post the link here so the community can
review the document?
+1
There are many active community members who have an
interest in monitoring. I'm sure you'll get lots of
feedback.
-chris
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Hi everyone!
Just wanted to check-in to see if anyone has had the chance to take a look
at the draft and leave feedback. I'll be locking things down for this one
by Thursday of next week (Nov. 8), so there's some time left if you are
still working through it.
Note I suspect a number of folks aren't even looking at it because it is
behind an authentication-wall (regardless of how willingly / speedily
access is granted on request).

Mark
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Have a great weekend!
Post by Mallory Mooney
Hi all!
Just wanted to give you an update. I am working to get things for this
series wrapped up by the first week of November. Hopefully, that still
gives everyone enough time to review and leave any feedback.
Mallory
On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 3:37 PM Mallory Mooney <
Post by Mallory Mooney
Igal, it will be available publicly once published! I don't have an
official publish date yet but can share that when it becomes more concrete.
And no PRs yet, Chris! It's still in the less cool GDoc stage of the
review process. :)
Mallory,
Post by Mallory Mooney
Post by Mallory Mooney
Post by Mark Thomas
Post by Mallory Mooney
Post by Mallory Mooney
I definitely appreciate everyone's willingness to help out!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fudlXj055nnPd-1lUoAXIS2ge8qNI56_jgUhHgKczFE/edit?usp=sharing
Post by Mallory Mooney
Requesting access will still be needed, but I can grant that ASAP.
I want to make sure I can attribute comments/suggestions to
specific people, so I know who to thank, and who to follow up with
if I need more clarification on a specific comment. Plus, it makes
the IT department happy.
What, no GitHub PRs? ;)
Post by Mallory Mooney
Post by Mallory Mooney
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+1
Is that going to be publicly available or is it a
proprietary/private/commercial guide?
Igal
-chris
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Post by Mallory Mooney
Post by Mallory Mooney
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:53 AM Christopher Schultz <
Mark,
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Hi all,
I work for Datadog and am writing a guide about monitoring
Tomcat (with or without Datadog). I'd love to get some
feedback on the technical content. The project maintainers
we reached out to recommended we post a request here.
Would anyone be up for that? I can send the post link to
someone directly.
Appreciate your help and time!
Why not post the link here so the community can review the document?
+1
There are many active community members who have an interest in
monitoring. I'm sure you'll get lots of feedback.
-chris
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